…Logan…

I don’t get to watch quite as many movies as I would like to.  I did get to see Logan and it blew me away.  It’s more like dystopian sci-fi (even though it’s only a few years in the future) than it is a “super hero” movie.  It’s depressing and dark.  And the look of it almost seems to be influenced from video games.  I guess Wolverine is the most MGTOW superhero out there.  And the movie surprised me because we get to see Wolverine and Xavier deteriorate.  So I suppose this touches on male disposability in a way most movies don’t.  And the actress who plays Wolverine’s “daughter” really knocks it outta the park.  I think she did a better job than Linda Blair did in The Excorcist. And there are “political messages” if you look for them.  I am surprised the Alt-Reich and manuresphere didn’t whine and cry about this movie the way they did about  Star Wars because quite frankly I think this movie is 10 times more subversive.  But then again the manuresphere and Alt-Reich think art and music are for sissy fayguts and real men ™ learn game and learn about mascuwinitee from Jack Don-0-van…

 

…A thought experiment…

We’ve been having a robust discussion about UBI in the comments and one idea I mentioned to “Incel PUA” in regards to jobs that people don’t want to do but “keep society running” was the idea of “tours of duty.”  That is that employment would last for a term of say 6 months to 2 or 3 years and after the tour, an employee would have enough cash to achieve a life goal such as travel or a new car purchased free and clear.

I was thinking that if someone offered me base expenses to maintain my lifestyle for a year plus maybe enough to enjoy a few road trips but I just couldn’t have sex, I would gladly take it.  Of course I would love the freedom of not having to report to a (micro) manager or pee into a cup to prove I’m not a bad boy superpredator ™.

Probably goes without saying that I would avoid stripper bars or “massage” places.  It might be technically within the rules that I could go to these places and still get my check but I wouldn’t want to risk a moment of temptation from a broad that gave extras and risk losing my easy cash.

Now, I know the easy answer is that me not having to clock in and take it easy while going without something I usually go without anyways is like offering a wino a wine tasking job or a gamer a game testing job.  However, I am not sure that self proclaimed “incels” or PUA types would take this offer…

What do you guys think?

The Gr8 M(h)RA Milkshake Debacle?!@*&?!

Okay, I may have made a mistake in a previous post…

“There’s an old saying from feminist’s about MRA’s. “An MRA is one blowjob away from not being an MRA.” And quite frankly, this is one time when feminist’s generally got it right. You might say that, hey, “even a broken clock is right twice a day.” But this time, they just observed an easily observable truth.”

I seem to have remembered seeing this on the hideous “manboobz” website.  They often misquote things that MRA’s, MGTOW’s and others have said.  A few of you guys were attributing this to BarBar or MRA’s.

My limited google-fu found this Paul Elam article from 2011…

“I am pretty sure I read a comment from zed over at TS not too long ago that “Most MRA’s are one blowjob away from becoming a mangina.”

https://www.avoiceformen.com/women/a-letter-to-traditional-women-revisited/

I am unsure what TS refers to, maybe this site:

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/

and Zed sounds like one of the MGTOW Manifesto trad-con dudes but that was before my time….

I’d rather admit to being wrong and figure out what is right than double down when evidence shows otherwise.  That’s something I’ve learned from watching my father and Paul Elam.  Maybe learning not what to do from the old guys is as important as learning what to do.

So if you guys got any links to ad, throw ’em in the comments…

…this guy is not a MGTOW per se…

Now I don’t know what this guy’s “gender politics” are.  He alluded to the fact that women saw his relative poverty as being a perpetual adolescent. He did say (without implicitly saying) that money was only a tool to give him what he wanted.  And that was a life playing music.

As I have mentioned, I have watched MGTOW devolve where they used to talk about “minimalism” and now they talk like (neo) liberal feminists about chasing corporate careers.  As I mentioned, I don’t know this guy’s personal politics and he might very well laugh if someone showed him MGTOW or MRA video.  But the irony is that we have now reached a point where guys who don’t label themselves MGTOW are producing far better  content for actually “Going Your Own Way” (Living the life YOU want) then anything under the (now toxic) MGTOW banner.

A fork in the road for men’s issues…

There’s an old saying from feminist’s about MRA’s.  “An MRA is one blowjob away from not being an MRA.”  And quite frankly, this is one time when feminist’s generally got it right.  You might say that, hey, “even a broken clock is right twice a day.”  But this time, they just observed an easily observable truth.  And MGTOW’s with their talk or returning “to the plantation.”  Well, truth be told, most of those guys would “go back to the plantation” in a heart beat.  I remember reading a few MGTOW blogs back in the day where guys talked about minimalistic living.  Y’know,  getting a tiny place on the edge of town, living without a car and working maybe 25 hrs a week and spending allot of time on hobbies that most would consider weird or eccentric.  You don’t see much of that talk these days.  Now these guys talk about “careers” with the same zeal as (neo) liberal feminists.  Not with the idea of working for a few years then opting out, but rather with being a cog in the machine til some broad decides they are worth marrying.  Yeah, why would so many of them be so ideologically opposed to UBI if they truly were for male sovereignty.  Don’t you think UBI could allow some men to pursue their dreams or at least allow them lives away from frustrating and soul crushing toil?  They are just closet right-wingers who need other men to be lower on the “dominance hierarchy” just so they get a chance to “score some pussy.”

 

I actually see one achievable path to victory for Men’s Rights in the United States.  If drugs were decriminalized and non-violent drug offenders were released, we would see a significant reduction in the US prison population.  Sure a few women would be set free but far more men would be. Essentially this would be a huge victory for men’s rights.  We wouldn’t even have to get into arguments with mainstream feminists (traditionalists might be a different story.)  One thing that makes this look more acheiveable and less like a pipe dream is that many states are legalizing medical marijuana and a few have legalized recreational marijuana.  We are at a similar place for drug legalization that gay activists were for gay marriage about 10-15 years ago.  Just as society’s attitudes towards gay marriage flipped in the past few years, I think the same thing will happen in regards to drugs.

People like Paul Elam and Judgy Bitch are no allies.  They would just stand in the way.  There’s no point in “returning to patriarchy.”  The “incels” with their cries of “I can’t get laid” are of no use either.  It’s time to fly under the radar and avoid the dishonest liberal/progressives and the regressive right wingers and focus on the low hanging fruit easy victories.  Quite frankly the “old guard” MRA’s, “incels” and MGTOW’s are holding things back.

….some old articles for your consideration….

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/lick-that-kitty-you-misogynistic-douchebag-reprint/

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/this-is-why-incels-and-puas-irritate-the-shit-out-of-me/

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/pill-popperz-and-other-assorted-looney-tunes/

Since it seems I got some new commentors here, I’m just curious what you guys think of the old shit…

…what should a low status man say at work…

A hideous bigot Ellen Pao is accusing “tech” companies of having “incel” workers.  Realistically, there is no way for a company to know if they have “incel” workers unless these workers do something stupid like use company property/company wi fi to post on places like “sluthate” or wherever.  Quite frankly, that would be just as stupid as looking at porno at work and taking extended “potty” breaks.  And “incels” DO NOT EQUAL virgin or sexually inexperienced men.  This is the core of the problem.  Bigots will intentionally conflate all the ER hero worship with sexual inexperience or even a man who does not like to talk about that stuff.  I sure as fuck can’t talk about my drug use in a workspace, well I sure as fuck won’t talk about my sexual experience.  That means I won’t even engage in small talk with a buzzed co-worker about which lady is the prettiest/”most bangable” (in Rooshspeak.)  If they persist in which lady “I like” the most, well, I say, “You mean platonically, we are speaking platonically of course.  That would be Lilly.”  Lilly was the office dog at my last workplace.  And I mean canine, not homely woman.  And since I am not Millenial Woes or some other Alt-Right weirdo, I do mean platonically.

If co-workers try to pressure you into going into “happy hours” you can just say, “I don’t hold my liquor well, but if you are going to pressure me into drinking, we could go to the shooting range.  You just gotta sign a waiver that whatever happens, I ain’t responsible.”  I have said this in the past, but with mass shooters, maybe you’ll trigger some crooked Hillary  supporters.  Too bad I can’t be honest and say, “My body chemistry handles weed better than booze.  I don’t much enjoy the alcohol high and I don’t like peer pressure.  I’d much rather get stoned by myself than around people.”

If anyone asks about MGTOW, you of course would pretend not to know that acronym in real life.  You might just admit to being a life long bachelor and leave it there.  Also be careful to avoid politics or religion at the workplace.

I worked with some racist Mexican guys and they would always talk about sex and visiting prostitutes.  When one harrassed me and said that I was awfully quiet, it mus be because “I was gay or a virgin–or both.”  This is technically sexual harrassment.  My response was “Neither, just ask your mom and sister.”  He looked like he wanted to fight but burrito breath couldn’t fight his way outta a paper bag much less kick my ass.   All the other dudes laughed at him. That job was awful, they tried to unlawfully fire me and I got unemployment benefits.

I imagine that if some bigot like Ellen Kung Pao Chickenbreath asks you about your sex life, the best response is: “I am a member of a protected class and will discuss this no more.”

What do you guys think?

Why do failed PUA’s become traditionalists?

Okay, so we’ve seen this trend with Roosh 5 alongside other horrid PUA’s.  They stop rattling on and on about “game” and “running routines on sluts” and start talking traditionalism along with the return to patriarchy bullshit.

One would think that the type of society that would lead to the most casual sex would be one where women have easy, legal access to abortion.  One where STDs aren’t shameful and one can easily go to a clinic and get medicine.  One where woman are encouraged to spend their 20’s “partying.”  One where casual sex is celebrated and virginity in men is ruthlessly mocked.  Gee, one might think that Roosh 5 has the same Planned Parenthood sticker on his (mom’s) car that Mandy Marcotte has on her’s.  One would think that at least politically speaking, progressives, PUA’s an feminists would be on the same page.

…but what we seem to be observing is PUA’s like Roosh talking about traditionalism.  Now traditionalism has been toxic to low status men.  Why would Roosh celebrate it?  Is it because he is such a failure as a PUA that he hates the “infrastructure” that could’ve given him theoretical (at least) success?  Is it bitterness that he feels false god Hugh Hefner lied to him?  Is it hatred of low status men comparable to a despicable “incel” like Elliot Rodger?  Why would failed PUA’s pedal something as poisonous as traditionalism?????

intactivist’s, now’s your chance

Tamerlane let me know about this video:

I did call the Iceland Embassy myself and let them know I was a US citizen who was against MGM and saw things differently than US politicians.   I was asked for my name and number so for those with doxxing concerns, tread lightly.

Just remember, you might “trigger” a bigot like this one:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/28/no-one-wants-to-live-in-a-world-of-uncircumcised-penises/

“incels” have nothing to offer to low status men

First of all, “incels” are incredibly gynocentric.  They define themselves as unable to get laid.  They define themselves in relation to women.  They don’t have an identity outside of “lacking a sex life.”

Second of all. they hate low status men, especially non-white and mixed men such as myself.  Just look at that piece of shit Elliot Rodger.  Every crooked liberal and feminist will say his crimes were “misogyny” but just go take a look at the kill count and do some basic math.  He killed more men than women, and more non-white men at that.

Thirdly, they often support “return to patriarchy” ™ ideas similar to charlatan Roosh V and the misandrous trad-con Judgy Bitch.  What they will NEVER tell you is that things were even worse in the old days for most low status men than they are now.  He just wants a guaranteed wife through arranged marriage regardless of all the terrible shit that goes along with “traditionalism.”

Fourthly, they often support the libertarian tough guy politics seen at cesspools like Shedding of the Ego and other “fine” manuresphere sites.   A fucking incel will expect you to listen to his goddamned whinefest that he can’t gt layyed and life is so unfair for hours on end.  But if you dare told him that you just lost your job, he would insult you as not being a real man for your inability to earn money.  He woud call you a parasite if you claimed unemployment benefits as that might increase his taxes a ninth of a cent.

Just name one time when an incel has ever done anything nice for you or anyone else?  I bet you can’t.  But they expect you to listen to their woe is me tales all fucking day long.  If you run a blog, just look at the shitty self-absorbed comments they leave while telling you to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.  They are as awful as feminsts and M(h)RAs.