Quiet Riot Girl mentioned me on her blog in reference to the Selective Service in America….
…anyways I don’t feel like writing much today so here’s (hear’s 😉 ) some tunes….
“It’s a real shame to see that a steady campaign of misogynist blather from so-called “men’s rights activists” in the comments at Good Men Project has poisoned founder Tom Matlack’s mind. Personally, I’m a big fan of just banning MRAs. They have nothing of value to add to a conversation, and exist online solely to disrupt any conversation they fear might lead others towards reaching the conclusion that women are people….”
Well, maybe when she talks about the fact that men live shorter lives on average, that there is less funding for prostate cancer, it is only males that are required to sign up for Selective Service-then she might get some sympathy from me. However, it just seems like a tactic to shut out voices you’d rather not hear. Oh, anyone complaining about men’s (statistically provable) problems is “mansplainin’,”an MRA, an uneducated backwoods misogynist. Sorry, I’ve read a bunch of her stuff and at this point, I don’t think she is arguing in good faith. Ironic how those looking to uncritically push an ideology seem to love censorship…. Now, we could get into a huge argument whether men or women have it worse. I’m not willing to do that, mostly because I don’t think it will be productive. But I will say that when you are at The Good Men Project, a site that purports to be about men, I don’t think you should be silencing living breathing men and telling them they aren’t allowed to have problems due to “privilege” or some other sort of argument.
Now here is another one I find problematic.
“…In addition, women who find themselves in heterosexual relationships where they have more sexual desire than their partners, whether temporarily or just in general, often take being rejected for sex or being put upon to initiate it most of the time very hard on their self-esteem. If you believe that “men want it more”, that he doesn’t want it as often as you gets interpreted as “I’m boring” or “I’m unattractive”. Because there’s very little cultural room to talk about this problem, women in this situation have very little chance at getting relief or setting themselves straight.”
Sex addiction and avoiding gender essentialism
Now, the thing that is a bit ironic is how she will call shy, insecure men unable to even get in relationships “megadouches.” and, one has to wonder if fans of the band MegaDeth can also be referred to as MegaDouche’s. 😉
Her response to Miguel Blomfontosis’s article went something like this…
“Shyness doesn’t make you nice. It just makes you Nice®. I have known many people who are shy assholes, who both hate other people and retreat from them, which actually makes a lot of sense.”
….and that was about the nicest thing she said in the entire article….
Now she had another article about Christopher Hitchens…
“I wish that he and the men who are like him that are still around could apply the same rigorous thinking to their own prejudices. Ours would be a better world for it. That is all. ”
Well, I’d like to turn that one around to her and her “allies” like Hugo Schwyzer.
so, a, you can see the comments on my last thread….
Getting into trouble like only the Stoner With A boner can….
I have more comments at Roissy/Heartiste’s-let’s see if they get past moderation….
on December 23, 2011 at 1:26 am | Reply stonerwithaboner
Alek novy Dared me to ask you how many lays you have had and how many weren’t from your social circle.
He said you would ban me for life if I did.
on December 23, 2011 at 10:08 am | Reply JJ
on December 23, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Reply stonerwithaboner
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
as proof that you are not pro censorship like the feminazi’s and to disprove critics,
please post my post with the following like…
This allows your erudite readers to open their worldview and think more critically….
on December 23, 2011 at 8:55 am | Reply felsenburgh
“Alek novy Dared me to ask you how many lays you have had and how many weren’t from your social circle.
He said you would ban me for life if I did.”
The quality of the trolls used to be higher around here.
on December 23, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Reply stonerwithaboner
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
troll, eh, that’s what Fucktrelle said….
on December 23, 2011 at 9:29 am | Reply Sidewinder
Well, next time you are at a blog and someone says “you are so privileged.” Just fire back like this:
How do you know? Have you ever walked a day in my shoes? I doubt I can use my so called “privilege” to buy an expired soda at the 99 cent store. Is there an official criteria you are using or are you just making this up as you go along?
This is the definition I found on an online dictionary:
a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor : prerogative; especially : such a right or immunity attached specifically to a position or an office
Really I don’t know what definition you are using but I suspect that it is not in good faith and you are only engaging in “Identity Politics” as a way to discredit my words. I am here to debate ideas, not to be trampled on.
If they don’t like it, Fuck ’em….
And if you like this, feel free to cut and paste it as a response, just remember to give me some link love 😉
alright, I realize my I’m now in the bigtime! article may have made some readers scratch their head and say “WTF!” When I dropped a link at Quiet Riot Girl’s siteshe responded with “god that whole post and the comments is a huge car crash!” I was a little unsure if she was reffering to my post or Futrelle’s… At Feminist Critics, Alek Novy mentioned “@stoner, I tried to understand your futrelle-post or your blog-post about it. I was left more confused then before trying. It’s a mess. I don’t get who said what to whom and when and why and what happened.”
So, I wrote a response at FC, trying to give a play by play and some explanations….
—Stoner With a Boner
December 21, 2011 at 6:34 pm
This all started because of a post of advocatus diaboli’s at inmalafide.
I was misquoted at manboobz-Futrelle put part of something I said in the Inmalafide comments section, he put his own words around it, thus taking everything out of context….. These quotes came from a controversial article…
(at my blog)
I quoted the entire quote Futrelle misquoted, you’d probably get as different impression reading everything I putt on the thread.
I had made a male centric comment about prostitution being degrading towards a male “expected” to pay for it. (I think this is where his anger towards me came.) This was about how a male’s sexuality is worthless, thus he should pay for it. I know I didn’t phrase this well but it is a big concept that I see wrong with the MRA movement/manosphere. If the comments were offensive to some, I would only apologize to an “ethical” sex worker/customer. I believe it “could” be theoretically be practised ethically, but I don’t know if it is the reality….
(every time I have tried to express the idea that male sexuality should have value-I got anger from Feminists-they either want to see men as “exploiters” or “willing to pay” in one form or another.
Then, it is speculated that Advocatus Diaboli is really Ferdinand Bardamu-you, myself and others had come to this conclusion. I wrote a “psychoanalyis” of AD. I’ve read many of his articles and I don’t know if he is real or not. It was partially done as humor and partially done to show the unifying elements of his rants….
Finally, I closed saying that I thought this article was troll bait for Futrelle and the Manboobers, ironically he did post the article.
I cut and pasted quotes I had left at the original inmalafide article (leaving the date in place so one can see I posted before Futrelle misquoted me.) I’m a bit unhappy on how Futrelle and his crew took things out of context. As it is now, it is like an inside joke your either “get” or don’t. But this could open doors to talking about serious issues of equality between the two genders. I don’t quite have the way to express this yet. I did read Warren Farrel’s “Myth of Male Power.” He discusses these ideas but doesn’t come to a close in my mind.
I didn’t link the two original articles as I don’t care for them or their authors much…
Anyways, a big part of the frustration is an inability to express my ideas adequately…..
(end of FC comment…)
Apologies for not being clear enough-I understand as a writer, that becomes my job.
Feel free to ask questions and leave comments….
Well, I saw another article about Kay Hymowitz.
There was a great comment by Thaddeus:
“So let me get this straight: increasing numbers of men are not going into the traditional family model that feminism itself has pointed out as patriarchical and unworkable and now this is somehow because men are whiny immature bastards?
Wait a minute! Weren’t men supposed to be whiny immature bastards clinging to priviledge when they DID put career and a stable, suburban-friendly 2.5 child family ahead of everything else?
Bottom line: men are going to get called whiny priviledged bastards by certain people no matter what they do, so sit back, relack and enjoy it guys.”
Mr. Fucktreele, ah, Futrelle quoted part of something I posted at Inmalafide.
The complete quote was:
Stoner With a Boner December 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm
“Are my ideas any more “reprehensible” or “inhumane” than game? If not- then please shut up.
Otherwise tell me what makes them more “unacceptable”??(quoting Advocatus Diaboli)
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading….
I also find the idea of paying some dickhead like roissy or roosh money to learn game degrading.
If the MRM wants to be anything more than a bunch of pathetic whiners, they should advocate the idea that a male is more than a fucking walking atm machine–the only addendum I’ll ad is that if you do make a baby with someone, you should be paying for said baby until they are 18.
The original post was at Advocatus Diaboli’s controversial Pooning on a Tight Budget
now, it has been speculated by many that AD is actually Ferdinand Bardamu’s sockpuppet. I don’t know if this is true or not, but I figured I’d have some fun and write up an analysis of him….
Stoner With a Boner December 8, 2011 at 3:56 am
time to psychoanalyze durty diablo—-
hahahahahahahahahaha, this’ll be interesting…..
why does he go to prostitutes? maybe cause he has mommy issues and nobody loves him. The simple answer would be to get a dog, but as I am not for animal abuse, I hope he doesn’t as he seems mean. He may be lonely, but he has all of us mocking him and responding to his posts to take care of that. He secretly craves attention. If it was only sex, he could probably find other ways or even if prostitutes was his only option, he wouldn’t have to brag about it. No, he brags for other reasons…
One might think he is doing this for validation. He is hoping others will approve of his actions. This does not seem to be the case–see the derisive comments and how he always comes back for more. Perhaps he is doing this for empathy and he wants to give other men who face involuntary celibacy options on how to deal with their situation. I think not, see above why he shouldn’t have a dog–he seems mean. He would gleefully laugh at other males misfortune.
Interestingly enough, Brett Stevens has an article discussing Feelings and saying they are unimportant. Well, feelings dominate the world of hideous Diablo. He often talks in what is in my estimation an covetous voice about sociopaths. He only wishes he could be calm, collected and heartless as they are. He is petty, envious and irascible-still this is not the core driving emotion. Our “beloved” blogger is driven by resentment.
Yes, resentment. Money is of little consequence to vindictive Diablo, he has whatever overpaying techie type job smelly guys with poor social skills and overpriced degrees get these days. He gladly parts with his cash to gain access to vaginas and whatever other orifices he may partake in. Perhaps he found being rejected by girls a soul crushing experience. Perhaps it was a blow to his fragile ego and tattered self-esteem. Perhaps many of us could empathize, but he chooses to alienate potential allies. He parts with money to hook up with women to avoid being made fun of to his face. Even though they surely make fun of him after he pays, he cares little. But it is resentment that brings him back again and again. Since he is paying these women often large sums, he is actually on the losing side of this interaction. He is really quite powerless in many ways. Haha, impotent is a word that might come to mind but he buys pills to take care of that-yes I did read his posts about boner pills and how to get a prescription…
Quoted from the Great Wiki:
“Robert C. Solomon, a professor of continental philosophy at the University of Texas at Austin, places resentment on the same line-continuum with contempt and anger. According to him, the differences between the three emotions are as follows: resentment is directed towards higher-status individuals, anger is directed towards equal-status individuals and contempt is directed towards lower-status individuals.”
Now, look at the responses to his posts. The word pathetic comes up allot. This would suggest his low status despite high education. He is worthy of contempt. Why is this so? He keeps on blabbering about the same slights weather real or imagined. He is such a hostile, despicable character as to prevent us from feeling sympathy for his misfortune and lousy lot in life. He reminds us of part of ourselves that isn’t so kind. It is the part that see’s a car wreck and instead of looking out and thinking “I hope he is alright”–it brings out something a little darker. It brings out that part of us that says, “Poor bastard, better him than me.”
Now of the more perceptive among us, you may see the negative feedback loop we are in. Diablo craves our attention. We get to look upon his wretchedness and feel better about ourselves if even only fleetingly. Diablo feels worse, thus buying more sex in an attempt to feel better. Then he writes more and we respond more. The ethical thing to do would be to ignore his rantings and ravings. Surely we are not ethical folks in these parts-we enable Diablo in his downward spiral and damnit, it is fun!
But the clinger of this is my “prediction…”
Stoner With a Boner December 7, 2011 at 10:04 pm
…and, this article is so silly that it seems like it’s just trying to bait Mr. Futrelle and all his manboobies………
trenchant wisdom indeed!