Trigger Warning for “libertarian” MGTOW’s

okay, so-called “libertarian” MGTOW’s if all you are gonna do is call me a “passive aggressive cunt,” well, maybe it’s time to renew the AVfM membership.  Otherwise, feel free to leave THOUGHTFUL comments….

I asked CS MGTOW directly why he would entertain denying men under 30 the vote.  He referred me to this video:

He presents a loose argument that voting isn’t a right but merely a privilege…

Now, in the US the 26th Amendment extends the right to vote to 18 year old’s.  This was the age that men could be conscripted into combat.  Can you imagine a society where men are old enough to die in war but not considered “mature” enough to vote for the leaders who would send them there?  If anything, this gives a slight check and balance so that young men may have some opportunity to vote for their self interest.    It is certainly possible that they may vote against their self-interest or even not at all.

CS MGTOW also seems to imply that older men would vote in ways that would be fair to younger men.  However, we have seen many examples where older men treat young men and boys like absolute garbage.  Denying one group the ability to vote so that another can gain more power, what’s that again?  Is that Fascism?  I’m not sure, I slept through social studies, but it ain’t Democracy.  Are prominent MGTOW turning into “dark enlightenment” figures of the manosphere?

I’m not seeing allot of pushback from so-called MGTOW against lunatic far right ideas.  If this is what MGTOW is, man, count me out….



Trump Daddy

I read this article by George Lakoff on the rise of Donald Trump.  My first reaction was, what’re ya smoking man (and can I have some.)  He talks about a strong father figure…

He states:

“In the strict father family, father knows best. He knows right from wrong and has the ultimate authority to make sure his children and his spouse do what he says, which is taken to be what is right.”

Okay, I was ready to just say, hey, that’s some Freudian shit and leave it at that…

But apparently creepy thought leader of the Alt-Reich, um, new conservative Milo Y refers to him as “Daddy.”  I can’t figure out if Milo is delusional enough to think he’ll get some inheritance money or if it is some weird homosexual fetish that queers want to call old dudes who fuck them daddy. And this goes into another rant why I don’t think gays and women should be a voice in Men’s Rights.  They tend to see men they find attractive as “morally superior.”  Just look how Jack Donovan fetishizes soldiers while considering other men garbage.  If what I said sounds hypocritical, just think how absurd it would be if I proposed that “Playboy playmate of the Year” was morally superior to another woman because I found her hot.  I’d (rightly) be accused of thinking with my dick.  However, I’m a fucking bigot for suggesting that gays and women be held to the same standard… fucking liberals…

Paper Abortion

Okay, there was an article at BarBar’s site:

I don’t know the details but apparently this might be a prank as the party suggesting paper abortion also suggested necrophilia so long as the now deceased consented to the act before passing….

Now allot of MGTOW/M(h)RA’s fancy themselves as right wing, tough guy “libertarians.”  Just step back a moment and think… What kind of nation would you need to live in for the government to seriously consider paper abortion?  Well, you probably beat me to it, but it would be a country with a strong safety net.  It would likely have national healthcare, free daycare, parental leave after the birth of a child.  Heck, it would probably be somewhere a “real man” like Bernie Chapin would call socialist/leftist.  It would most likely have high taxes–or a shit ton of natural resources that it was selling to the rest of the world at an exorbitant markup.  As it stands now in the US, the state goes after “deadbeat dads” because someone has to pay for the babies.  Hell, sometimes the guys stuck paying aren’t even the genetic father.

So tough guys, which one do you want?  A pull yourself up by the bootstraps “free market” or a high tax socialist nation?




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This image of neo-nazi John Angelo Gage is better than anything I could come up with.  And, uh, here I was, worried that these mutherfuckers lacked self-awareness.  Johnny Adolphonso, I underestimated ya…





Cognitive Dissonances of WN’s and “libertarian” man-0-spherians

Okay, here is an interesting video…..

W33v is obviously a bright fellow, however intelligence doesn’t mean someone doesn’t have their head up their ass-in fact, those extra IQ points might mean they are able to get their heads farther up their ass and just rationalize it a little better.  Even though I don’t suppose this is the sort of guy I’d want to grab a beer with, I do have some degree of respect for an individual such as W33v or Eivinde Birge who have gone against repressive regimes….

He is purportedly a white nationalists and I have seen him comment at Daily Stormer. In the comments to this video he mentions living in a Slavic country and not intending to live in the US again.  I don’t know if he is of Slavic descent, hell I don’t know if he is of Jewish descent.  Most the Jewish people I’ve met IRL look white, I know one guy with reddish hair who could pass as his brother.  And how would most people describe Bernie Sanders: an old white guy.  I’ve seen pictures of Afghani’s with blue eyes and blond hair.  I’ve met Mexicans who look white.

I remember where I grew up and in some ways people were still stuck in the 1800’s.  Guys of Italian descent were called Daygo’s and Whops.  Ironically Daygo is slang for day laborer and Whop means with out papers.  I say ironically because prominent white nationalists like Jack Donovan and Angelo John Gage look like they could be Italian.  Funny how they might make comments about Mexicans standing around Home Depot the way someone generations ago might’ve made comments abut their grandads.  And growing up, I remember if someone’s name ended in Stein, they were told to “Go fly a kite, you fucking kike” and “did you hear about the new Jewish car?  It can  stop on a dime and pick it up.”  If their name  ended in Ski, there were comments about submarines with screen doors and jokes like “What do you do if a Pollack throws a grenade at you?  Pull the pin and throw it back.”

Lots of light skinned folks look like each other and lots of light skinned folks hate each other.  Kind of like lots of womyn who claim to be pro-womyn and call themselves feminists hate other womyn who take off their clothes and/or fuck for money.  Don’t these fuckers have any cognitive dissonance when they say they are Pro-XXX, but also hate people most people would consider part of group-XXX?


Now, the next thing I find strange is all the manuresphere guys supporting Trump.  As W33v said above, the Trumpster shots from the hip.  He doesn’t have what could be considered a cohesive ideology.  But he has said things that imply he would like to restrict people’s freedoms.  He is accused of having Thugs for security.  Is this someone who would run a “transparent” regime?  Back to the FBI and Apple, well, in my limited understanding of the Constitution, privacy isn’t guaranteed like free speech and the right to bear arms but it is implied with the 5th where you don’t have to incriminate yourself and in the 4rth where you don’t have to quarter soldiers and  don’t have to give up documents.  It seems libertarians would value privacy and freedom.  I thought most manurespherians idolized themselves as being libertarian however Trumps views don’t strike me as libertarian, in fact there are studies saying that authoritarian personalities are most drawn to his rhetoric.  So for all their talk, they probably are ineffective bullies who associate more with Neitzchean views of “might makes right” rather than “sons of liberty.”  To me they seem more like some feminists who endlessly rant all about the evilles of dateless loser Nice Guys ™ while their Warmachine ™ boyfreinds beat the living shit outta them.  Of course it is their body and their choice.  Nothing like some 50 shades of gray.  Funny how some femmies will endlessly make excuses for violent men like Hugo Schwyzer yet make fun of a virgin who can’t get a date and compare him to Adolf Hitler….