Let’s untangle the Nice Guy thing once and for all…

A man whines online about how he works hard, tries to look good and can’t find a date. He isn’t met with sympathy, but scorn.  It’s as if a poor person wandered into the tough guy libertarian forum.  You will see feminists and other men jump on this guy.  Tell him to man up, get his shit handled and stop carrying around the entitled attitude.  Would you expect that telling this shit to a poor person helps?  Maybe if you are  corrupt career politician like Hillary Clinton you would.  But obviously these people are shaming this unfortunate fellow.

Maybe people hate seeing male weakness. So just remember that, even though you heard all that bullshit about the sensitive man, you will be laughed at and humiliated if you actually show vulnerability in real life.  But that’s not the full story. Why would a woman turn down Nice Guys but jump in the sack with bad dudes with a history of violence? Sure, it’s possible that that a woman was seduced by a fast talking conniving sociopath who carefully covered his tracks.  But many times these women know what they are getting into.  The Ev Psych answer is that violent men can protect women in dangerous times.  The manuresphere answer is “chicks love drama.” It is a woman’s right to be attracted to whomever she is attracted to and her choice to be introspective to figure out why she chooses what she does.

Okay, so a woman has the right to choose but we still haven’t gotten back to why these guys are being shamed so hard.  Male vulnerability, well, that’s only part of it. The bigger part is the women are wonderful narrative.   These feminists and their male enablers don’t want their precious narrative attacked.  By saying that a man is “entitled” they are taking your eyes off the fact that certain groups of men have it tough in dating.  For example short men or men of certain ethnicities attacked by the assholes on the Roosh V forum.  These men aren’t any worse in a moral standpoint than other men, it’s just that most women don’t find them attractive.  It much easier to point out an imagined moral failing than to attack the beloved women are wonderful narrative.  It’s quite similar to a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” libertarian berating a poor person who tries to scrape together a living by working two part-time minimum wage jobs.  Between commuting and work, the poor person is working 50+ hours but not getting overtime or benefits.  Yet the tough guy libertarian says “they don’t work hard enough” and “not working hard” is a moral flaw.

8 thoughts on “Let’s untangle the Nice Guy thing once and for all…

  1. And that is why I have nothing but contempt for both feminists and the so-called manosphere, though the later can be entertaining.. sometimes. My solution is to make any such relationship strictly transactional- because doing so makes it far more damaging to the other party than myself.

      1. Yes, because I can easily walk away from one provider and move to another one at my whim. Ideally, I should be able to do this without paying- but hey, perfect should not be the enemy of good.

        But paying for it upfront is far better and cheaper (in long term) than marriage, LTRs or even STRs.

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