So, at least hypothetically, MRA’s want to change society and legislation to help men. (Whether or not Paul Elam has done one positive thing is not in the scope of what I’m writing, thought I think he hasn’t.)
MGTOW’s seemed to propose an individualistic solution. They would not be going onto marches or trying to change legislation. They were operating n a new world where information could spread quickly and the old ways of “top down” do as you are told would not work. They were operating in a society that was growing increasingly atomized.
So this seemed like the “new” answer. But after several negative interactions, I began doubting the sincerity of these guys. Are they trying to “help fellow travelers?” Are they trying to scam cash on books they’ll never publish? Are they trying to feed their ego with “tough guy talk?”
The question that begs to be asked is what is the “endgame?” Will this “philosophy” help low status men?