MGTOW 2.0 has failed us…

By my reasoning, the libertarian/trad con’s who wrote the MGTOW Manifesto would be MGTOW 1.0. Barbarabrowski, Ziggy Stardusk and (Enter the) Sandman would be MGTOW 2.0.  I am obviously leaving allot of people out.  But I think it is fair to say that those guys failed us.

We can point out how Barbarabrowski took the money and ran when it came to his Miggytau bookypoops.  We can point out how Ziggy Stardusk and so many other  so-called MGTOW sound allot like the Alt-Reich with their cries “The muzzies are cummin’, the muzzies are cummin’…” We can all laugh at (Enter the) Sandman’s silly Youtube vids.

In my mind, there are two prominent reasons that are connected to the failure of MGTOW 2.0.  #1) Monetization of content & #2) a refusal to distance themselves from the manuresphere.  I believe these two reasons cross over….

After many MGTOW made it clear that they didn’t want to work with Elam’s AVfM and after doxxings advocated by Aaron Clarey, it seemed logical that the next step for these guys would be to divorce themselves from the manureshere.  There were many reasons to do this.  According to “red pilled” PUA’s, MGTOW’s were pathetic incel virgins who couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse with a hand full of hundreds.  With friends like that, who needs enemies?  It would seem logical that after the doxxing, these MGTOW’s would say “Adios, manuresphere.”

That leads me to the next point, when you are trying to monetize something, you need a customer base.  Who better than a bunch of guys who buy “nootropics” and get rich quick books?  It would be easy for MGTOW 2.0 to tell off the manuresphere if they didn’t need customers.  But since they need customers, they stay tethered to the manuresphere:Screen shot 2017-03-26 at 12.22.14 PM

Yes, Barbarossaa who was doxxed, not by a big, meanie feminist but by the behest of manosphere big wig Aaron Clarey still considers himself part of the manosphere.  I left the manosphere behind when I saw it for what it was.  It was easy for me to do.  I have commentors but no customer base.  If a commentor leaves, maybe a new one appears but I don’t have to sacrifice my dignity and say things I don’t believe to “close a deal.”  Barbarabrowski, how much abuse do you need to take before you leave those fools behind?  Oh, why am I even asking, it’s not like I’m dealing with an individual with integrity.  e-Beg for money for your book.  Then dissappear.  You were cut from the same cloth as those guys.  Or maybe, I am insulting those guys.  Heh, Clarey and Forney DO have books for sale.  They may be awful, but they are available.

This is where I suspect I might get a stray comment or two.  But what about the MGTOW on reddit?  What about the guys who found good advice?  This is where I say we must distinguish between a simple philosophy (don’t get married, don’t cohabitate with women) and personalities trying to make a quick buck and get e-celebrity.  I suppose a man may have found actionable advice on a forum or on the occasional youtube video.  But he didn’t need to drop cash on someone’s patreon (hatreon?) page for it.

Happy New Years!!!!

and, uh, I just couldn’t help this dig against, hehe, Sandman…

 

2017 Reading List…

Got the chance to sit down and read a few books this year…

Now before anyone gets “triggered,” a few are books recommended by Jordan Peterson.  I read some of the things he recommended because they relate to things that interest me and I feel it might be easier to refute some of the things he says if I better understand the framework from which he is arguing….

Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky.  Of everything I read this year, this was the most challenging. It probably didn’t help that I read a translation from the 1800’s.  I slogged through this and it wasn’t until I got past the halfway point that I found much enjoyment in it.  I viewed this book as an answer to the idea of Nietzschean ethics where a “master morality” can justify the unjustifiable.  The “protagonist” is wracked with guilt (shown as illness verging on madness.)

Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.  This was the most enjoyable read of all the books I read this year. I polished it off quick, too.  Bradbury explores ideas about censorship because of the desire not to hurt/offend someone. In this novel, firemen burn books and people consume information via television. It talks about technology dumbing down ideas.  I’m not sure that this is exactly how things play out in the real world, but maybe so with Twitter.

Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning.  I found this book interesting because I had read about the Millgram experiments a few years back.  I had also read a gruesome book, On Killing before this.  Perhaps for those interested in ideas like compliance or with an avid interest in WWII, this would be a worthy read.

The Road to Wigan Pier by George Orwell.  Yes, the George Orwell who wrote Animal Farm.  This book is in two parts.  The first part describes the difficult conditions of the British working class, specifically coal miners.  It also touches upon the fact that class isn’t just about money as some working class men earn more than George Orwell was earning as a writer.  The second part of the book is actually more interesting.  It is highly critical of socialists of the time and alludes to the fact that many don’t actually care about the working class, they just hate hose richer than themselves.  This made me think of feminist’s that don’t actually care about women and MGTOW/MRA’s that equally don’t care about men.  For those that stop by at my blog, this would be a book I’d recommend checking out if you haven’t already.

The Painted Bird by Jerzy Kosiński.  This is a psychadelic horror novel, if you will.  There are graphic descriptions of violence that have the campiness of a low budget horror movie.  Either you like this sort of thing or you don’t.

The Scarlett Gospels by Clive Barker.  It’s been years since I read his stuff.  I’d say this was a decent read but didn’t draw me in the way I was into his stuff in the old days.  I don’t know if I’ve changed or Clive changed.  It just didn’t grip me that much though it was still a decent read.

The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Niel Gaiman.  Much like Clive Barker, I’ve read a few things by Niel years back.  Just like the last Barker book, this was a decent read but didn’t grip me, like say, The Anansi Boys did.   Again, IDK if the authors changed or if I’ve changed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I lost my focus….

I was supposed to be cleaning my base of operations…

unearthed the PS2…

 

 

oh, well, time spent playing video games is way better than real life interaction with MGTOW’s, feminists or the Alt Reich…

…messy room youtube ladies…

Okay, so I’ve thought that someone like Cappity Capitalism imbibing hard liquor and smoking ceegars in vids showed a lack of awareness on his part.  Is someone who can hardly moderate their alcoholism someone you would take advice from?  We don’t see Matt Forney or David Futrelle scarfing down a cheezeburger and washing it down with some Mt. Dew.  I’m sure they would like too, but they don’t.  They know they would be harshly mocked. I suppose Cappy thinks he might be mocked for his alcoholism but still drinks like a fish because it eschews some 1950’s “libertarian tough guy” idea of “manliness.”

I’ve noticed several Youtube ladies will show vids from their messy bedrooms. Now, my first thought was they lack basic self awareness.  There are still thirsty men throwing themselves at these ladies.  In many cases they could easily ether get the clothes (“dirty undies”) off the floor or just face the camera towards a wall and hide the disaster of their living space.  I even think that oldschool rad-fems who wouldn’t wear make-up or other “tools of the patriarchy” would at least give us a clean looking room or workspace.  I think, that perhaps these ladies see their persentation as some new kind of femininity whereas someone like Cappity see’s his presentation as some kind of masculinity.   This new femininity is “too good” too cook or clean.  Not even for a man but for one’s self.  It seems like the “fat acceptance movement”-“Accept me as I am, you are the one with the problem, how dare you have standards.”

Star Wars…

yup, I saw it…

…yup, the manuresphere guys will cry that Disney is “cucking” them with non-white characters…

…yup, I just contradicted my previous post by saying “cuck.”  (even if it was to describe the manuresphere.)

…yup, Snokes is a bad dude…

…just an observation…

I’ve been perusing a few blogs (dying art form) and noticed to be what I consider a mistake…

I’ve seen a few blogs that are purportedly critical of the alt right and the “red pill” but still refer to other men as “cuck” or “beta.”  While I’ve definitely created a few meme’s with Cuck in it, I think adopting the language of your purported enemy’s is a mistake.  What does an army do when they conquer a new land?  They burn the libraries and destroy the art.  I think it is falling into a trap to use the enemy’s customs.  Sure, you may be able use some terms sarcastically, but think of this…

Is a Satanist really the opposite of a Christian? They are still operating within the same framework and opposite sides of the same coin.  Each believes in “sin,” “God” and “Lucifer.”  Just think how MRA’s seemed allot like feminist’s.  That was their mistake.  Feminism sought “to give women more rights.”  Now MRA’s seek to “give men more rights.”  Are men’s problems really due to lack of “rights?”  Sure, you may find an individual man who has faced hardship due too a lack of rights but it is unlikely that the problems many men face now are comparable to the problems women faced 50 years ago.  So how will creating a parody of the womyn’s movement help men? Likely, as an individual man, you will have to seek out your own solutions rather than listening to some potty mouth idealogue like Paul Elam beg for donations.

In order to effectively fight a crooked movement like the Alt Right, one must be careful not to fall into similar identity politics, least they find themselves alongside the equally crooked antifa…

Perhaps a quote  I once saw on a videogame sums this up more eloquently than I ever could…

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

…the “death” of feminist critics…

Years back, I used to comment on a blog called Feminist Critics…

At times, they would have threads with nearly a thousand comments…

I looked at the site recently and it is still open but no one comments there anymore.

My blog gets flyby comments, and I admit, I’ve been quite low energy in the past couple of years…

It’s been awhile since I wrote anything substantial

I’ve been living on the gasfumes of Spencer meme’s and Youtube videos…

So, why would my little blog still get some traffic and a substantial blog like FC go by the wayside?

I can make a few guesses but have no definitive answers…

I think many low status men have seen that there is no point in working alongside feminists or progressives…

I think we’ve seen a shift in the paradigm…

I think that “the old ways” will do more harm than having no plan…

…libertarian tough guys shouting over low status men…

I’ve often wondered why so many “libertarian tough guys” shout over low status men in so-called men’s spaces/MGTOW spaces.

Why do they support economic policies that benefit the wealthy?

Most low status men are not wealthy.

Perhaps a few are engineers in Silicon Valley looking to “cash out equity” on their stock options.

Perhaps a few made some money on bitcoin.

But I think more of these guys are 30K millionaires.  They are up to their eyeballs in debt.  They have no plans of “escaping the rat race.”  If they did “escape the rat race,” they wouldn’t know what to do.  They need someone to be “beneath them.”  In fact, they are as invested in “career” and “rat race” as their feminist sisters who went 100K in debt for that womyn’s study major.

I don’t see much value in “men’s spaces.”  A few years ago, all you had was a bunch of lunatics bragging about “game” and how they scored some drunk pu$$y.  Now it is the libertarian tough guys. None of these fuckers would give me a roadmap to freedom.  I have nothing in common with them.  They have nothing to offer.  I will say (and it does sound a bit arrogant)–they need me more than I need them.  They need a lower status man to step on top of his shoulders and “feel like a real man.”  They need a “dominance hierarchy.”

When was the last time you got a good piece of advice from Barbarossa, Sandman, Aaron Clarey or Stardusk?

I’m waiting…

Maybe 3 years ago…

But that was common knowledge, avoid marriage or co-habitation….

We haven’t seen any new ideas in a long time.

All we’ve seen is stagnation and cries about “brown invaders,” “white genocide,” etc., etc….

What is passed off as “mgtow” these days is as useless and (I hate using this term) toxic as the bullshit passed of by a male feminist ally like Michael Kimmel.

I’ve thought of closing down this blog for a few years.  I realize I haven’t written anything of substance since probably 2013 or 2014 if not longer.

Shit, I’m surprised that my low energy posting still gets comments.  But I guess it is fun to leave comments on meme’s of jackass Richard Spencer…