Is Jordan Peterson the New Hugo Schwyzer???

In my last article, I mentioned how Jordan Peterson’s use of “rhetoric” was similar to Hugo Schwyzer demolishing MRA’s in debates because he was more educated rather than right.  But the more I think about things, the more I see many similarities between fallen feminist icon Hugo Schwyzer and traditionalist tough guy Professor Peterson….

Of course there is the obvious stuff…

They are both academics and they are both fame seekers.  But let’s dive a little deeper…

Hugo Schwyzer often bashed low status men with what he called the trifecta: “Porn, Pot and Video Games.”  It was a cheap shot to ignore the very real struggles many men go through.  And why shouldn’t they “opt out” and enjoy themselves.  Feminism is supposed to be about helping women and not hurting men, right?

Okay, let’s take a look at Jordan Peterson and his views on Universal Basic Income:

Most telling is his attitude in the video, “Men who are men don’t need money, they need function…”

…and interestingly enough, he made fun of MGTOW’s, men who discuss “the game being rigged.”  Is it because he needs low status men to “stay in the game?” Neither Schwyzer nor Peterson have much “status” if being a professor means nothing and other men aren’t broke.  Both have “succeeded” in a dominance hierarchy and need struggling men beneath them.  If men “opt out” then what do they have?  A worthless piece of paper and a finger to wag, “Stop being lazy and be of service to women?”


The next point will be a bit counterintuitive, but I believe we can look at Schwyzer and Peterson as being “different sides” of the same coin…

At first glance a (neo) liberal male feminist and a “right wing” trad con would seem diametrically opposed.

Schwyzer was a sex positive male feminist who brought adult film stars with allegations of abuse to his classes.

Peterson seems almost regressive to many right wingers for questioning women’s wearing make-up in the workplace. And he has also talked about women’s (increasing) unhapiness and the “problem” high powered women have of finding a man as well heeled or better off, so to speak.

Now, I may be making a jump in logic, but I think at the root of both ideologies is a desire to control people.  In Schwyzer’s case, he wants to shame low status men.  In Peterson’s case he wants to curtail women’s freedoms and lecture men to “return to patriarchy.” Both of them are at odds with male sovereignty at the end of the day. They just have different ideas of how to do this.


The third point is the “impropriety” of both of these guys…

(Now in Peterson’s case it is merely accusations…)

(Thanks to Mr. Odessa for letting me know at AD’s place…)

Now, what I find strange about this is that Prof. Peterson is reluctant to leave the door open when speaking to female students.  I remember when I worked in a public facing role that I made sure to be as out in the open as possible so that I wouldn’t face a false accusation.  I was glad to have “camera’s on the cash registers” so to speak.  I did, ironically enough, face one issue of being accused of being stoned at work.  And, this was a time in my life I probably would’ve passed a piss test.

Part of me can appreciate that Peterson doesn’t want to give up all privacy when conversing with a student and it seems like giving the finger to the NSA.  However, one might think that if they were absolutely baseless accusations, he would now happily leave the door open to avoid them in the future.  So for me, something doesn’t seem to be adding up.

Schwyzer bragged about banging students on his desk and even had a post on his blog about how  he almost killed his lover (and himself) in a drug fueled rage…

Ironically, Peterson talks about “having your house in order” before you critique the world.  But neither of these two asshats have any problem wagging their finger at low status men.  What a bunch of sanctimonious pricks…


Update, the Youtube video where JP says he has been accused of sexual misconduct 3 times has “gone down the memory hole.”

If any of you guys have a link to a mirror video, feel free to drop it in the comments…