The Jack Donovan Question…

…it goes something like this…

A scumbag like Male Sentient Void or Kirea (One of Tamerlane’s sockpuppets) will say….

“Why do you make meme’s of Jack Donovan, you are obsessed with him. It must be because you are secretly gay and want a really big penis up your bum.”

At the same time they are berating my blog, calling me a drug addict (and how come I’m not the one begging for money) and saying that I am not pro-male because my low status has psychologically damaged me. They call me useless but insist I join their worthless “pro male” collective which is anything but pro mixed race men such as myself.

The “story” of Jack Donovan is interesting in the same way the “story” of Harvey Weinstein is. Jack Donovan was able to penetrate (haha funny word choice) the manuresphere the way Harvey Weinstein was able to penetrate Hollywood circles. Some might say “don’t hate the player, hate the game.” But what this really shows us is how corrupt the manuresphere and Hollywood are to allow such shysters important roles.

Back in the day when I tried to work with MRA’s (yes, what was I thinking, how stupid could I be…) I would talk to an MRA called Ginko. He was a white guy and gay. He would whinge for hours about how gays were second class citizens. Yet the second I ever tried to talk about race, his attitude was all “Suck it up buttercup.” Yes he was essentially saying that my problems weren’t real but his problems were more important. He would recommend horrid people like Judgy Bitch. He even praised Jack Donovan on awful Honey Badger’s blog. I left this link to show how bad he is:

https://web.archive.org/web/20181205043919/http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/12/mighty-white/

His response, “Not someone to preach on being a good man, but who better than someone like that to tear into bigots?”

Do you really expect a mixed race dude to “stand along” someone who is associated with a criminal organization like this:

The fact that I get extraordinarily negative reactions when I post JD meme’s just shows how corrupt men’s spaces are. It’s not just the “right wing” guys. Allot of liberals are racist scumbags:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/white-liberal-racism-why-progressives-are-unable-to-see-their-own-bigotry.html

Yeah, as far as scumbags like Tamerlane, Ginko or Male Sentient Void shouting at me and telling me my problems aren’t real, all I can say is I hope your fake men’s rights movements fail and you get exposed as the fraudsters you are. You do not care about low status men one single bit!

and here is a (f)article from teh SPLC with their golden faucets:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/03/27/chorus-violence-jack-donovan-and-organizing-power-male-supremacy

Notice how it’s Jackie D’s “misogyny” and not racism that is the problem… Fuck You liberals!

32 thoughts on “The Jack Donovan Question…

    1. The advantage this guy has is that he owns a home with equity, he could rent out rooms if he had too.. Also a bit delusional as he see’s himself as part of Amazon but his paycheck comes from a different company. Amazon would throw him away like a used condom the minute it suits them. I bet he is the same age cohort as that MikeCA guy.

  1. “Kirea (One of Tamerlane’s sockpuppets)”

    Your statement might’ve more merit to it than I initially assumed. Tamerlame didn’t share his “Fist” blog account with his other two comrades who came up with the name and the label (otherwise how come he could boot them out in the cold so easily when he felt he needed to dispose of them) but here we see Kirea linking to his comment he left under the identity of Fist. Puzzling, at least?

    Here’s the comment in question:

    https://promalecollective.wordpress.com/2018/12/18/people-do-not-care-about-children/comment-page-1/#comment-796

    “Yeah, as far as scumbags like Tamerlane, Ginko or Male Sentient Void shouting at me and telling me my problems aren’t real, all I can say is I hope your fake men’s rights movements fail and you get exposed as the fraudsters you are. You do not care about low status men one single bit!”

    Even if it doesn’t fail, it’ll be of no use to men in the third world or even many men in the first world, for that matter.

    Also, Tamerlame has admitted he’d e-beg if he could. I highly doubt he’d refuse money from people of color or from third-world residents. Of course he won’t consider spending a cent of it on third-world men’s problems or on issues people of color face. But he won’t hesitate to call you a left-wing hijacker if you point this out to him.

      1. “Even if it doesn’t fail, it’ll be of no use to men in the third world or even many men in the first world, for that matter.”

        Why do you always bring up the third world? Misandry has existed under every economic system.

      2. “Why do you always bring up the third world?”

        Because YOU demand men work collectively and you don’t even consider the interests of men who have it measurably worse off than you do. You don’t advocate for those men yet you eel entitled to their labor and loyalty.

  2. https://promalecollective.wordpress.com/2018/12/26/concerning-compliments-to-my-blog/

    Well, he’s basically saying this: collective is above individual in all respects (wow, this is a “modern” observation). What he doesn’t mention is: who gets the benefits of collective pursuit? Certainly not some mixed race guy, that’s for sure.

    Even Tamerlame’s favorite example of corporations working together to stall wages, block emerging markets and to fix prices; at least they cooperate in the name of a common selfish interest, while the pro male cult basically says you have to sacrifice even your identity in service to the “greater good”.

      1. There’s no civilized conversation to have with those fags. They act as a “unit”. They understand only the language of the Fist.

      2. The guy, *David*, in the chat window, sucks up hard to Tamerlame. Tamerlame doesn’t mind this sucking up at all. When they first started, *David* went:

        “stonerwithaboner is a good pro-male blog.”

        Tamerlame then hints at him this isn’t welcome. *David* instantly hits the brake and makes a 180 turnaround.

        These guys are plastic. They look for others to do their thinking.

        Every newfag who stumbled at them since summer this year’s either left or been booted out, if he possessed at least a modicum of self-respect and intelligence. The only people left in the group are plastic guys sucking up to Tamerlame or “The Old Guard”, the faithful core which ain’t very different in aspirations to Tamerlame.

  3. “I hope your fake men’s rights movements fail and you get exposed as the fraudsters you are.”

    Well, that depends on people getting advance warning about the cult’s true intentions. I strongly suggest you Stoner, to do a blog post exposing the pro male cult citing factual evidence. There’s plenty, you can start with Save The Babies From Knife Rape* video I linked. Or anything, really, you dealt with Tamerlame a lot longer than I did.

    I don’t fear they might win, in a way that Trevor Cormier fella has arrogantly put in his blog post. That’d be giving them too much undue credit. No, I’m worried about naive guys getting dragged down by them.

    *Funny how it turned out? You did a blog post in support of intactivism, they didn’t even credit it when they intruded on your blog to attack you. That’s what you get for showing support, I assume.

    I have a tentative guess they aren’t that interested even in fighting baby dick cutting, they just use circumcision as a club to attack fellow cultists who dared stray from the party line: “You didn’t do enough anti-circumcision videos to talk about that.” They’re perfectly fine with putting intactivism on the back burner.

    1. “*Funny how it turned out? You did a blog post in support of intactivism, they didn’t even credit it when they intruded on your blog to attack you. That’s what you get for showing support, I assume.”

      Yeah that Male Sentient Void is some kind of mutherfucker. Not one ounce of thank you but then comes here demanding I fit into his world view. I’m glad I’ll never meet that condesceding scumbag in real life.

      1. Thanks. Good post!

        “Why do you make meme’s of Jack Donovan, you are obsessed with him. It must be because you are secretly gay and want a really big penis up your bum.”

        I never said this.

        I don’t trust MRAs either. Nonetheless why do you focus on Jack Donovan in particular? Does he even call himself an MRA? Other than that book what has he done?

      2. “I never said this.”

        you said:

        Jack Donnovan is relatively unknown. Why ARE you so obsessed with him? What IS your “self interest”?

        Kirea/Tamerlane:

        You keep bringing up Jack Donovan. You want to have “rough sweaty sex without rubbers” with him but he’s not interested? It that the problem?

        —-

        You both state that men need to work collectively, you both plot behind the scenes together. It is not wrong for me to say what I said combining both of your names as you both said things relevant. And it appears you are attempting to play good cop/bad cop. If my blog is absolute shit and I am a mentally ill low status man, why do YOU engage with me when I politely said I want nothing to do with you and I am glad I will never meet you IRL? Why aren’t YOU focused on YOUR activism? I made this post AFTER YOU said I was “obsessed” with Jack Donovan. I clearly stated my reasons why I insult a pagan neo-nazi who has successfully penetrated “mens mvements.” I have stated my reasos why I don’t trust “collective pro male” movements and you have done nothing to prove otherwise. So keep on saying behind my back that I am a useless drug addict with mental problems who is obsessed with race (but always say men need to work collectively and not complain that they are treated unfairly due to race.) I don’t need to fight you, I can just point out the truth and other men won’t work with you.

      3. Dude wtf. Stop saying things I didn’t fucking say. Tamerlane, Kirea, and I are different people. You keep on conflating us as one person. I can’t keep up with your accusations. It’s like you want me to speak on their behalf.
        Yes Jack Donovan is a moron. Yes the MRM is full of shits like him.
        Why do you even criticize the MRM at this point? I don’t get your angle. The MRM has no power.

      4. You are being intentionally dishonest. You asked for what was said, I showed it each time. You don’t want to be judged as a group but you attacked me as a group. You all attacked me and said my blog was garbage. If a gang jumps one man and in self defense one man busts one of his attackers jaw. Then the gang member with the busted jaw calls the cops and says he was attacked. Then the attacked man says he was humped nd just threw fists so he didn’t get killed. The attacker does not have the benefit of the doubt but you demand that. I have explained several times why a mixed race man would not want to associate with Jack Donovan fans but you keep asking for “evidence.” Yet the fist in the face of misandry collective laughs when their opponents ask for evidence. You fight dirty. You are not pro male and I hope more men see what a joke you guys are. Telling the truth is not “right wing” now get off my blog asshole…

      5. When a user is blocked, it says Array. The dude is not operating in good faith, he attacks people as part of a collective then demands to be treated as an individual. What’s the proper wrod? Entitlement? These scumbags demand I give them a benefit of the doubt that they refuse to give me.

      6. No when those slimeballs attack and invade it’s called pro male. It becomes gross entitlement only when mere peons like us dare stray from their party line or politely inquire if they’ve anything pro us.

  4. Kurt is such a whiny bitch who goes on and on about pro male being oblivious to the plight of third world men but he never show any evidence. Besides, he won’t say anything when right wing cunts come to his defense. The enemy of my enemy and such.

    1. I did show evidence, but you and your fraud collective’ve chosen to dismiss it, before attempting to gaslight me and verbally abusing me. And now, slime, you’ve the nerve to lie about me withholding evidence, even though your cult’s commanding officer’s default position is: “We don’t owe you evidence”.

      Analyzing Male Slavery8 months ago

      Why should we provide evidence right winger?

      Right wingers make barer assertions all the the time.

      There is a channel called Turd Flinging Monkey.

      I found comments by right wing nut jobs calling for leftist to be shot.

      “What would have taken less time? Pointing to even one case where someone has argued what you claim they argue the first time I asked or running your ass off in circles trying to evade having to do so?”

      We do not owe you evidence, do you not get that?

      Fuck you. You’re a bunch of dishonest slimeballs.

      1. The comment I quoted was from a video on a UBI.

        The video’s received a copyright takedown because the original creator’s wanted nothing to do with this bunch of slimeballs.

        BTW, it wasn’t a response to me, in case you were wondering.

  5. I am banned from the promale collective discord by that asshole male sentient void. if you have stated facts that hurt their feelings then they will ban you. i was called a left wing hijacker because i pointed out how capitalism causes so much suffering to men. those guys are more like sjws. getting offended for practically nothing.

    1. I think you mistook the pro male cult for the men’s welfare group.

      Technically speaking, they’re right about capitalism not being the source of men’s issues.

      Speaking realistically, there’s no political or economic structure that prioritizes men’s welfare over women’s. They all just different degrees of crap men’ve to deal with in order to survive.

      It’s still up to discussion which of capitalism or socialism or gift economy is the system that eases off men’s suffering the most. Unfortunately, we likely aren’t having any honest debate on this topic.

      Pro male cult’s no interest in solving men’s issues through the change of the economic system, because it doesn’t address men been seen as second class citizens to women. At least that’s their official stance on the issue.

      Also, they aren’t looking to solve any men’s problems now, they seek to recruit new obedient drones to grow their “movement”. The pro male squad’s then supposed to be used to bully others to do their bidding (guess whom they’ll bully first?).

      Btw Darksats, you lingered there far longer than I did, I was blocked right after I suggested a discussion on the lack of a third-world perspective on men’s rights.

      Pro male cult has its own version of political correctness. They’re not very honest about it (they generally admit it exists, but refuse to chart exact boundaries), but it’s there and it’s very rigid and uncompromising. I think they just got tired of you nagging them on topics they’ve expressed no interest in.

      My gripe with them initially was about their dodginess. I think folks can set up their spaces online and enact arbitrary rules there, provided they’re honest and upfront about them. I could understand if AMS’s answered me “nothing’s particulary useful here for third-world men, this group features mostly westerners and focuses on first-world perspective on men’s rights.” It’d be right and to the point, and hint at third-world men they’re better off organizing their own regional movements, build their own indigenous understanding of male condition.

      But independent movements they can’t influence or control aren’t really what those fags are after, and more, Stoner was really spot on with his remark:

      “Because YOU demand men work collectively and you don’t even consider the interests of men who have it measurably worse off than you do. You don’t advocate for those men yet you eel entitled to their labor and loyalty.”

      I can understand the frustration and desire for a true movement for men’s welfare. But a cult that seeks to wipe out your identity to replace it with a rigid hierarchy of the “pro male” order?…How could you be so blind, Darksats?

  6. “hey nut job, you jumped onto the blog and started attacking us from the start, you had zero provocation to do so”
    “hey stoner you dishonest fuck, why are you lying about me”

    Attempts at gaslighting. Treading water isn’t an attack.

    This nutjob tried to do the same to me. The reason he perceives an initial distrust as an attack’s the fact he wants to shut down your side of conversation to control you, and your distrust makes it not as easy.

    This Trevor Cormier fella’s accused me and you of being emotional parasites, starving without “healthy” collectives like theirs. I think their culture of manipulation runs so deep, they aren’t capable of comprehending there exist states in between being a prey or a predator….

    And the way Male Sentient Void approached this situation, it looks nothing like an attempt to clear out a misunderstanding. He completely ignored what we meant and focused on irrelevant crap instead. He tried “playing dumb”.

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