Why would someone use a broken metaphor????

The Red Pill/Blue Pill concept comes from the Matrix Trilogy…

The idea is that one can stay blissfully unaware and live their life as before (blue pill) or open their eyes to harsh truths and become red pilled….

Now, we have seen many groups within the manuresphere use this metaphor.  Why is this problematic?  Because life is not so simple as to say one group is blue pill beta’s whereas another group are red pill alpha’s.  They have to break ship and start saying funny thing like purple pill aware.  Haha.   They sound just as silly as feminists whining about “patriarchy.”

Why do they use this metaphor?  My first guess was that they wanted in-goups and out-groups.  Y’know, they want to be able to say “you are part of the club.”  “You aren’t GTFO!!!”

But, I think there is something a little more sinister going on. My guess is newbies are supposed to listen to rants and think that the person giving the rant possesses this secret knowledge that they can grant the newbie.  It is a bit of showmanship to create a sense of awe and suspend too much questioning.  When Richard Spencer talks about “the red pill” my impression is he is trying to pull a con job and fool people into thinking he is much smarter than he actually is.  He must have some secret insights into race, he mentions “red pill”–must be some shorthand for this secret knowledge, he and only he possesses that will make you eternally safe from flash mob vio-lence ™ until the end of time.

My impression is that if someone starts throwing this lingo around, beware, there is probably a con job and it’s up to you to figure it out…

 

…this is not going your own way…

alright, I saw this video on a rightwing blog where the author was trying to make the point “Yo, biches be cray, cray…”

Now, let’s get something outta the way first, pepper spraying someone may very well be assault and should only be an absolute last measure when violence is likely to occur.  This lady IS in the wrong…

However, let’s look at the guy’s actions, he tried to cut in line, he antagonized an angry woman.

I see allot of “tough guy” talk on MGTOW forums but I’d wager most these guys have never been in a fight IRL.  Y’know, it isn’t in the interest of a low status man to antagonize angry women in public places.  You are much better off staying under the radar.  If you accidentally interrupt before she closed out the sale, apologize.  If that doesn’t calm things down, leave the line and act as if you are looking to purchase a soda.  If things haven’t calmed down after that, leave the store.  It’s not as if you can’t get the same cancer sticks a few blocks down.  It sounds like I am telling you to act like a “pussy” while all the tough guy MGTOW speak like they are goddamnmotherfucking John Wayne.  Well, guess what, that fucker did not fight in a war.  You can read Special Forces manuals where they will tell you to avoid fights with the enemy when you are outnumbered and to regroup for when you can win.  Do you think a tough guy like Barbarossaa mentions “gynocentrism” in public when he is on a date with a woman?  No, most likely he keeps his MGTOW activities more secret than his porn stash. You will actually be given bad advice such as this by Razor Blade Kandy:

MGTOW, let us shed the ego, step out of our armor and expose the withered body hidden beneath, let’s take off the mask, look into the mirror and know ourselves, the face we have kept hidden, and show the world what we are. We will step out of our armor, and into the sunlight for the whole world to see us as we truly are. We are not thousand foot tall giants, we are not super heroes, we are not invulnerable or immortal, we are very mortal indeed. We are weak, we are frail, we are human, and we deserve to be treated as human.”

You are given advice that could cause harm in real life.  (Further) alienation from family, ridicule, humiliation, job loss.  Better to stay under the radar.  Figure out survival strategies.  Avoid conflict.  Yeah, total opposite of the “tough guy talk” these fucks are shoving down your throat.

Y’know, years ago I read a Book by Henry Rollins called Get in the Van.  I felt bad for him because he was constantly getting in fights, But it wasn’t till years later, I realized, he was looking for fights…

 

Now here is a mandatory read:

http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/bullies.htm

Now re-watch that video…

Notice how the cashier was never threatened?

I grew up in a shitty family environment.  Mommy and Daddy slapped each other around and I got hit a bunch.  Some crappy feminist lies when she says “men are the violence class.”  And those crappy MRA’s are just as ideological.  I realize now that my parents are just mean people who like to fight and found each other.

 

Yeah, you don’t need to listen to some MGTOW tough guy who does not have your best interest at heart..

Concern Trolling the Alt-Reich…

I’m no expert audio engineer, but I do know for a fact, Dickie Spencer I could improve your presentation…

 

That distortion in your voice is from recording too hot.  A newbie mistake.  Watch those input levels, you ain’t recording onto tape studmuffin.  You are getting digital clipping.  That’s noise, boize and gurls.  Watch the meters, you don’t want to hit the reds.  And a couple things to help with the sibilance, or what commoners call a lisp.  Use a pop screen, it’ll actually make you look more pro and you will probably have more distance from the mic. That’ll mean less clipping. If the levels are still too low, throw on some compression in the post production. (You do know what post production is, right? After all, doesn’t Steve Sailer teach that at HBD camp?)  Hehe, maybe even some pitch shifting to make your voice sound a bit deeper and less whiny, y’know more, ahem, masculine.   Also throw in some EQ to bring up the bass frequencies.  Make it sound boomier, then put just the slightest hint of reverb or delay, just make sure it’s not too much otherwise peeps’ll think yer in a cave. Also, maybe hire a voice coach, learn how to speak without a lisp, well, unless there is something I’m missing and that manner of speaking is a way to let certain men know that you are down for things that most men are not down for. A mating call perhaps?

And, uh, slow down your words.  O’bombya had the perfect tempo.  Terrible politics but perfect tempo.  He’s a better speaker than you’ll ever be.

As for the shirt, that’s just weird.  Is it some camouflage to make you blend in to the environment?  Hide from some anti-fa’s?  Melt into that comfy couch?

The liquor in your hand, presumably it’s liquor.  Scotch, amirite?  Well, maybe it’s juice after all.  It doesn’t make you look “intellectual.”  It makes you look like you have “poor impulse control.”

Now, Dickie, I know your fav singer called you a cunt.  I’m just not sure if it’s your crappy politics or your crappy recording technique.  Now, between you and me, “buddy.”  –Between taking a punch like a complete wuss and your incompetent audio/presentation skills, n one and I mean NO ONE will consider you the master race.  Masturbater?  Perhaps, Dickie, perhaps…

…and this is why we don’t like liberals

they get offended by shit like this…

 

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and this…richdildo

 

so this whiny liberal/progressive whines that Dickie Spencer got punched…

He makes a wrong assumption here, he thinks you are giving up the “moral high ground” by punching him and that you should win based on the merits of your argument.  But here is the problem, you cannot have a debate with someone like Dickie Spencer who is intellectually dishonest.  It’s like debating feminists, or MRA’s or even fucking MGTOW’s at this point.  There is no point.  There may be a point to take something Dickie wrote and rip it apart line by line so the fence-sitters can see how full of shit he is.  But to try to debate him has no point.  You can’t win against a con man.  You just gotta walk away.  And maybe you can tell people, watch out, don’t let that skeevy fucker pick pocket you.  That’s why I spent so much time bitching about the snakeoil scumbags like Roosh 5 pedal.  But there’s no point having a “dialogue” with Roosh, that’s what the old fuckers at AVfM couldn’t comprehend.  Feminists were laughing at them, and I was too.  If you hang around lowlifes long enough, you’ll hear this nugget of wisdom: “You can’t hustle an honest man.”    Maybe there are honest people who are a bit gullible and maybe you can save one of them some pain by screaming on the internet how bad Roosh  and his ilk are.  But when he openly advocates shit that is damn close to rape if not actual rape, well, it doesn’t make me a feminist to say that shit is wrong. It’s not just bad judgement on the part of AVfM, it’s an absolute lack of a moral compass to invite Douche V as your guest and say that he has interesting things to tell men.  On a similar note, by entertaining Dickie Spencer and he Alt-Reich as “legitimate” you are already losing the battle…

Now, if I was a racist full blooded white guy, I sure as fuck would not want some limp wrist sally like Mizz Spencer (oopsie, I misgendered it, the kyriarchical transmisogyny y’all) bossing me around.  “Alpha male”–I think not.  As a low status man who carries a receipt of what he just purchased, I do NOT have the fucking privilege (used the right way, not the way feminists abuse it) of expecting to go through life without violence.  I’ve been punched harder, and, goddamnit and fuck, I punched back. Where the fuck was bleeding heart Uygar when that happened? I know, nowhere, because low status men DON’T FUCKING MATTER!  So, does that make me a bad guy for laughing about a douchebag getting punched?  Maybe, but so what.  If anything, I’m triggered.  Donch’ya know, it’s not kosher to hit nazi’s with bare fists, yer supposed to use a baseball bat.

Anyways, back to Cenk…

 

Harharhar.  Cenk, would you dare piss off the sisterhood of feminism and laugh at a woman who left her abusive husband, scumbag??? I think not. So, how come it’s funny when it happens to a man? Is it some “real man,” “tough guy” shit? You just showed your true colors, asshole.

Any low status man with two braincells to rub together see’s how they’ll get burned standing alongside “the progressives.”  Yeah, when some condescending asshole like Rachel Maddow insults everyone who voted third party and blames them for the loss of crooked, war criminal Clinton, well fuck you liberals…

Max Hydrogen isn’t being intellectually honest here

There is an article at Shedding of The Ego titled “Sex doll brothel forced to close by law” by Max Hydrogen. Now first things first, I  admit I find this article silly, low status men have more serious things to worrying about than “playing with dolls.”  First world problems y’all.  It makes MGTOW’s sound like 3rd wave feminists who love their vibrators and (most likely) hate men.  Now I “get” an egalitarian argument that “men should be allowed to use sex toys too.”  I remember when David Futrelle mocked men who used Fleshlights but he would never mock a woman who used a dildo or vibrator.  Okay, even though it is kind of silly, I grant that there are legitimate reasons to discuss this but be prepared for lots of jokes…

Now there seems to be an identity crisis in men’s circles.  They can’t figure out if they are libertarians or if they want the protectionist policies that Donald Trump seems to offer.  I bring this up because when one jokingly refers to these guys as “libertarian tough guys” the response is to deny this:

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I am getting into highly speculative territory here, I think that these guys have a cognitve dissonance, they realize “the robots” will take many jobs at some point.  However, if technology offers them an alternative to a middle (wo)man, in this case a prostitute, they would welcome the alternative.  I believe many would support protectionist measures if it saved their livelyhoods. Again, I am getting into a speculative area ripe for debate. Unfortunately these guys have stayed within the manosphere and it seems like one moment they want to court someone like Bernie Chapin and another moment condemn him.  It seems like they have an ideology that isn’t rooted in anything other than what they deem to be their best interests at the moment.

Later on in the article Max Hydrogen says “Marxist prostitutes, only in Barcelona…”  Again, it seems like Marxist is a word to put infront of anyone you don’t like in the manosphere.  Are factory workers in Michigan who want their jobs back Marxists?  Are the factory workers for Carrier who don’t want their jobs shipped to Mexico “marxist?”  Perhaps these Spanish prostitutes are marxist or perhaps Max Hydrogen dropped this word in to be more appealing to members of the manosphere.

Now all these points are interesting and a more forgiving analysis may state something along the lines of “this is what happens when a narrow focus” writer tries to write on politics.  That is a MGTOW writer might be sloppy because he hasn’t carefully studied politics or he might have some uncertainty of his own political beliefs but still have some interesting ideas.

However, let’s take a look at the title…

“Sex doll brothel forced to close by law.”

Here is a quick article:

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Max says in the article, “The police were sent to investigate the legality of the Lumidolls brothel only to find the institution had relocated.”

This is a bit different than being forced to shut down by the government…

Now according to the website: http://www.lumidolls.com/en/ –it appears to have opened on March 30, 2017.

For those who have followed Medical Marijuana/MJ Legalization here in the Untied States, this story may have a few parallels. There are “gray -areas” that aren’t exactly “legal” or “illegal.”  It might be a matter of “zoning laws” rather than the legality of marijuana.  Fellow residents might complain about the business, it might be difficult to have a shop front in a strip mall because other business owners may complain. And it is hard to say you are being shut down by “eville marxist leftists” –it may be more the “get off my yard”  right wingers/libertarians complaining to the city of commerce.  Read that paragraph above again, “El Paris reports that the building’s owner immediately cancelled the rental agreement with the business, after seeing the furor generated on social media.”

I don’t think that Max Hydrogen would have been unable to make his points while including the small details.  I think he could have made a very persuasive argument that male sexuality is demonized.   I feel that he is writing more like a propagandist along the lines of David Futrelle or Paul Elam.  And I don’t feel this is what low status men need.  At one time I may have granted this as merely sloppy writing and been of the opinion that an imperfect MGTOW movement is better than nothing, however my views are quickly changing. I think sloppiness and intellectual dishonesty will cause more harm in the long term even if it makes a short term victory achievable.

Alt-reich, are you triggered yet…

Hey Alt-Right, I bet this song triggers you…

and that’s before you realize it’s critical of your “lifestyle.”

These fruitcakes sure whine like a bunch of liberals…

But it’s obviously not well researched because there sure as fuck is nazi punk…

they also mention, hehe, “right wing” Agnostic Front…

but let’s make no mistake, the alt-right want to be victims, they want to be bigger victims than feminists. They aren’t “conservative,” they are identarian and by extension, anti-meritocracy…

anyway, in the time of Trump, I bet liberal Scott Ian wishes he could disown this song…

To quote the late, great Dimebag Darrell, “Y’all take this shit so serious but to me this is one big jack off session.”

for my MGTOW “brothers” there is a hit piece, but I don’t have your backs this time…

as I just mentioned in my last post, I watched with low grade horror when MGTOW’s were doxxed at the urging of Captain Capitalism.  Didn’t see that one coming, y’all thought it was gonna be the big, bad feminists to do that, didn’t ya.   In hindsight one is left wondering why you guys didn’t make a clean break with the manosphere then?

I’m gonna jump around a bit, and maybe this paragraph should come in later, but I’m putting it sooner…  A guy starts a new job.  At lunch break, or the happy hour he gets dragged to by his co-workers or the weekend picnic, well at some point he gets asked “Where’s your significant other/Do you have a wife or girlfriend?”  Well, let’s say this guy has done a cost benefit analysis and he ain’t getting married.  He just wants to stay under the radar, avoid conflict and extract as much happiness as possible.  What’s he gonna say?  A.) I am a MiG-Toe, that is an acronym for self-aware Men Going Their Own Way.  We are an online “community” who discussed the evil’s of womyn.  At this point someone pulls out their phone and googles MGTOW.  What do you think they will find?  Intellectually crafted arguments or crass meme’s such as “I support women’s rights–as well as lefts” with a bloody, bruised woman.  …Or will he say B.) I’m a life long bachelor, saw how my parents marriage went and decided I’d rather have some piece of mind.  Well, let’s just say answering with B doesn’t give you the baggage of being associated with allot of crazy rhetoric.  Y’know, a feminist might even say that’s sensible, it’s more likely a traditionalist who will say, “Dude are you gay.”  (There’s always the “Nope, just ask your mom and sister” reply but maybe not the best if you are trying to stay under the radar.)

A few years back, intellectually dishonest individuals such as Hugo Schwyzer and David Futrelle tried to link Anders Brevik to the Men’s Rights Movement.  Even with the angry rhetoric of Paul Elam, they couldn’t quite create a convincing argument that the MRM was a direct influence in Brevik’s massacre, they could only vaguely link a few things in his long manifesto to some of the more “traditionalist” things some MRA’s had mentioned.  MGTOW’s had to have seen this happening.  They don’t exist in a vacuum.  They saw with Elliot Rodger that others would try to paint them as raving mad men.  Now, I am not saying that they should “tone police” themselves or have strict moderation.  What I am saying is that they should’ve gone to great lengths to show that they do indeed have a moral compass (if they do have one) and say quite prominently that they aren’t in support of certain things.  Now I still believe in innocent until proven guilty.  And I don’t believe that not going out of your way to condemn someone like Elliot Rodger means that you support him…

…however…

As I spent more time participating in so-called MGTOW spaces like shedding of the ego, I realized this was a community that I was not a part of.  I realized that I was glad that my only interaction with these individuals was across my keyboard and that I would not be meeting them in real life.

I was quite disappointed to see Stardusk move in an alt-right direction and CS MGTOW say that young men shouldn’t vote…

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2016/02/18/stardusk-has-gone-off-the-rails/

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/trigger-warning-for-libertarian-mgtows/

Now what disappointed me most, was to see guys who complain about every-fucking-little-thing not even make the tiniest bit of noise about this.  C’mon, libertarian tough guys, where’s the pushback?

They keep on hammering a broken metaphor into the ground.  That is the whole red-pill/blue pill dichotomy.  Well, when effete creeps like Richard Spencer also obsessed with that broken metaphor,  maybe someone with self-awareness would see that it should be left behind just like a rocker left his spandex in the 1980’s…

I made comments that some thoughtful people might construe as homophobic when I was trying to warn those guys about the “dahlings of the manuresphere,” that is Jack Donovan and Milo Yiannopolous.  Both Donovan and Yiannopolous had spouted anti-male rhetoric that those so-called MGTOW would’ve skewered a feminist for.  Why were so many so quiet with regards to these two shitheads?  Were they afraid of being seen as homophobic by their liberal friends?  Did they give gays a pass that others give women?  Or was it just that they saved their angry invective for women and the ocassional MRA that insults them?  I don’t know, but when I see blatant misandry, I call it out and I don’t care if that make me a “homaphobe.”

More and more, it seemed that these guys don’t care about low status men or male sovereignty.  More and more it seems like a pissing contest, not a place for men to create a road map to navigate a broken society.  More and more it seems like there’s nothing useful to find in MGTOW spaces, only anger and despair.

Now David Futrelle has his hit piece out, and you guys shoulda seen it coming.  But you chose who to associate with and who not to listen to. I ain’t one of y’all and all I can say is “don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.”

And if I haven’t made this clear enough…

Fuck You, David Duke!

Fuck You, Andrew Anglin!

Fuck You, Richard Spencer!

Fuck You, Milo Yiannopolous!

Fuck You, Jack Donovan!

Fuck You, Roosh V!

Fuck You, Aaron Sleazy!

Fuck You, Paul Elam!

Fuck You, CS MGTOW!

Fuck You, David Futrelle!

Fuck You, Hugo Schwyzer!

The current form of MGTOW will most likely fail (and hopefully be replaced by something much better.)

I watched with horror when prominent MGTOW personalities were doxxed.

I watched with a similar kind of horror (though at a much lower level of intensity) that one watches a family member go through an experience ala Christy Mack and Warmachine. Now, for what it’s worth she did bring charges against Warmachine.  (Go ahead call me a white knight mangina with a micropenis, I know you want to libertarian tough guy…) But imagine when this family member proclaims she still “lubbs him.”  You can’t even advocate self-interest to this family member.  There is no point having a “rational argument.”

I believed that the gaining popularity of MGTOW plus the terrible treatment they had received from the manuresphere plus self-examination would lead them to completely abandoning the manuresphere….

Yet, there they stay….

Red pill this, blue pill that…

Barbarossa himself still identifies as a member of the man-0-sphere:

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Individuals such as Max Hydrogen and Sandman still constantly harp on about the red pill/ blue pill…

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Why are they still using a broken dichotomy???

It sounds as silly as a feminist going on and on about “patriarchy” like a religious zealot…

Why are they staying within frameworks from the manuresphere?

They had their lessons and quite frankly were hurt worse by the manuresphere than I was yet still they want to stay…

If MGTOW as it is cannot leave, then it should burn out and be replaced by something that is in the best interest of low status men who are treated badly by society…

Perhaps something less hierarchical and more individualistic…

Perhaps something where men aren’t trying to sell books and get Youtube subscribers…

The Alt Reich won’t Be Defeated by Rational Arguments

We saw what happened when MRA’s tried to politely refute feminist talking points….

They were misrepresented by intellectually dishonest frauds like David Futrelle…

Now, I have no love for MRA’s and think that Paul Elam is just as much a snake oil salesman as any fraudster pedaling “game.”  But we saw what happens when one tries to argue in good faith against feminists….

The same thing will happen when dealing with the scuzballs in the alt-rech…

I believe we can show that they are hypocrites and that their “ideologies” are inconsistent.  But nothing will be gained by trying to engage them directly.  Well, maybe a direct punch to Dickie Spencer’s zit face perhaps…

Let’s tear these fuckers apart…creep-richard-spencer-when-jack-donovan-taught-me-about-masculinity-he-forgot-to-teach-me-how-to-tak

Just remember, just like the modern version of liberalism has nothing for low status men, it’s the same shit, different day with the alt-right…